What's New in Fedora 45

[01:35] So as we record in Texas, in fact, some of you may know Neal Gompa and Carl George. I literally just got off the plane, went and had lunch, and then came here. It's been a whirlwind already and really excited to sit back and talk a little bit about Fedora Linux. So all of you, I will be at home, in bed, asleep by the time that this episode airs. But that's the beauty of the internet, right? I love it. Well, enjoy Texas. Say hi to everyone for me. Do you want to introduce us to our guest for this week? Well, I will have said hello by the time people are hearing this. I think you're getting way too caught up in the time constraints of recording the episode.

[02:21] You have to feel it like it's live, Eric, because it's live, Eric. But yes, we do have a guest, our very own Fedora release coordinator. If I can hit the button. Welcome in. Welcome to the Fedora podcast. Thank you very much for having me. For those that don't know you or what you do, why don't you... I'll give you the same four questions right off the bat. Who are you? What do you do for work? What do you do for Fedora? And what's something you do for fun? Nice to be here with yourself, Eric. And you know, I'm Aoife Moloney. I'm the Fedora Operations Architect. And I'm very disappointed that you didn't hit me with the... Answer me these questions, three, for the hardcore Monty Python fans.

[03:08] But it's okay. I got to use that. Next episode. You got to come back to the Fedora podcast. We'll ask it that way. Yeah, sure. So, who am I? Aoife Moloney. I'm from Waterford, Ireland. And I'll try and keep the accent as general as possible. And I'll try and talk as slowly as possible, because I can talk a little bit faster than I do about this. Like I said, I'm the Fedora Operations Architect. So, lots of things under that. But mainly, the reason why I'm here is to talk to you about the Fedora release. And I would be the Fedora release manager for lack of a better description. I don't actually have any hands in the operating system part of it, thankfully. Everybody would be relieved. I sit and watch the clock and the Gantt chart and all of those lovely deadlines and milestones and emails.

[03:59] So, instead of being, as my engineering friends would call themselves, a grease monkey, probably more like a paper monkey. Or lead cat herder. Lead cat herder. But you did ask me what I like to do for fun. And so, I have two children. I was chatting to you earlier behind in backstage. I have one 18-year-old and one one-year-old. So, fun. There's a lot of term there. But I do like spending time with them, for the most part. They are good fun. But we also would have a lot of horses and ponies at home. So, I would have spent an awful number of amount of years show jumping, specifically myself as a teenager, many of those.

[04:47] And then my son, obviously my oldest, youngest is still a bit too small to be up on an animal yet. But we're getting there. But my oldest, he spent many years show jumping. So, fun was spent at various different horse shows and stuff. So, a few people don't call me the cat herder. They call me a pony herder instead. Because they have a few animals at home. Awesome. I love that. And probably the first horse rider we've had on the show. Oh, no way. I've been doing this a number of years. Oh, I'm sure there are. But I've been hosting the Fedora podcast a number of years. And I've asked that question for years. And I've had everything from rock guitarists to all sorts of things. And of course, I'm trying to think of these off the top of my head.

[05:35] And I think you're our first. So, that's awesome. First equestrian on the Fedora podcast. But a challenge now to make it not be the last. There you go. I love it. So, we are just days out from the release of Fedora Linux 45. Why don't you, if this were a commercial, if you're pitching us 45, why don't you give us the headlines? What are some of the key features in this new release? So, this release, like, I have to make it about myself. This release is actually my first release since being back from maternity leave. So, I missed Fedora 44. And so, this is my first release in like a year. And I've just upgraded today. And it's just works. It's just like sudo dnf.

[06:22] And so, sudo dnf upgrades whatever and away it goes. And it's just seamless. The graphics are like my background. I could not put the wallpaper on are beautiful. I'm a GNOME workstation user. But that's not to say I don't like KDE. I have huge respect for the KDE desktop folks. We'll get to those. But it's just such a lovely desktop experience to have. Like I said, it just works. You just turn it on and everything is just seamless, fluid, easy, solid. So, it's a great release. Really polished. Can you touch a little bit on GNOME 51 and on GNOME 51 on workstation and plasma 6.7 on KDE?

[07:10] Is there anything that jumps out at you as, hey, if you're a GNOME lover, you want to look here. If you're a KDE lover, you'll want to look there. So, I would definitely encourage everybody to have a look through the release notes for GNOME 51. And also, there's great articles in the Fedora magazine as well about What's New in Fedora Workstation. What's new in Fedora, KDE. They'll have a ton more information than I'll be able to give you. But for the workstation folks like me, definitely the coolest feature is the fact that there's a little icon counter that shows you how many files that you're clicking if you're dragging them around in the file system. And I always get a wrong note list. Yeah, it is very cute. And I think the graphic, I haven't had time to play around with it all that much yet, but just from release notes, having a quick look around, things just look an awful lot more like slicker and stapler.

[08:08] There's no flickers. There's no anything. So, if you're using a higher resolution, like a 4K or whatever, it's very crisp. It's really lovely. I'm not a KDE user, but I was reading their article. Highly recommend Fedora magazine has great stuff in there. But they have a really, really nice accessibility feature in there. I'm going to have to flick back because I don't want to misquote it because I thought it was just really, really cool. It's a dwell clicker. So, it can send mouse clicks when the pointer stops moving. So, if you have mobility issues, if you get cramps or anything like that in your hand, thereafter enhancing an awful lot of their features there to help users. So, I thought that was a really, really nice touch.

[08:54] One of the things about GNOME 51 that I was excited about, and Noah will appreciate this, is the journey to fully open source in your home environment is always a pendulum. And over the past few years, life has been a little lifey for me. And that pendulum has swung back to, just let me pay for the thing. And I'll just deal with it. So, I've fallen on some old habits. And I'm back to depending far too much on Google and Apple's ecosystems. But one of the things that, for our audio listeners, Noah just rolled his eyes at me. You started by saying, Noah's going to love this. And then you said, I've fallen back on Apple and Google. I'm waiting for the part I'm loving. I'm just waiting. I can't wait.

[09:41] That is where the pendulum swings the other way, my friend. Okay, all right, okay. All right, somebody Google pendulums for Noah. So, but what I'm excited about is that in GNOME 51, Maps and the calendar have both gotten huge rewrites. And so, what's really, really nice is I live and die by my calendar. It's color coded. It's everything's on there. If it's not there, it's not in my brain. And so, as someone who's been a long time Apple user, I really appreciate the fact that my calendar and my Maps talk to each other. That way I can put in, hey, tell me how long it's going to take me to drive from my home to this doctor's appointment. And it's smart enough to factor in things like traffic and that kind of thing. Well, GNOME 51 now has something very similar in that the calendar can now talk to the Maps application and provide a lot of the same functionality.

[10:33] So, this is starting to really sound appealing that once I get my desktop, which will be running Fedora GNOME probably, maybe Plasma. I might get Plasma on track, but I can get that same functionality out of my calendar. Yeah, they've done an awful lot of work in this release. It's just, like I said, already polished. 100%. Can you talk to us about the real changes that people are going to feel? So, if you're a user of Fedora and you're sitting there and thinking to yourself, why does this matter to me? What am I going to notice when I install the latest version of Fedora? I think you started by saying that, hey, it just works.

[11:20] So, maybe the answer there is, you might not notice anything and that's really great. But if they are going to notice something, if there is a reason that they're going to jump on and say, oh, this is a massive difference, what would they notice? So, if you're, so I'm an end user, I'm similar to Eric. I like the things that just work because, like, be like him. But if you're a developer, if you're sitting in that kind of an arena, there are going to be a couple of changes, and mainly good, but you should kind of pay attention to them. Let's start with the negative. And it's not even negative. It's just as an FYI. We have some network manager changes. There's a couple of VPN stuff that's going obsolete. And I want to reference the Fedora Magazine as well because the network manager team inside Red Hat did an article about it to kind of guide our end users through, because if you're using Fedora for a work environment and you connect through a Cisco VPN or there's another one, that may stop working for you.

[12:21] So, you should really save all of your login credentials and that configuration, or migrate away from the ones that are being obsolete onto something that more support it. So, people using Fedora for work don't have to connect through VPN setups. That might change for you pretty soon. So, take note of that. Read the article. Make sure that your systems are all configured to keep it moving. There's a couple of other things developer-wise that you're going to notice. So, they have brought in, I think, the best one to start with. Actually, the cool one to start with is we now expect all package builds to be reproducible. So, I think the last take on it was in F45.

[13:08] No, today's F45. F44. Today's Thursday, but it's still today. We got to about 90% packages in Fedora Linux that are reproducible, like, as just expected to be at the norm. We're now at something like 99%. So, we're, like, really, really close to having 100% packages are expected to be reproducible. This is going to be really, really cool for people who want to maybe start getting more involved in package maintenance. It might be intimidating. I sure as hell would be intimidated to be a package maintainer. It would feel very heavy for me. But maybe I can tinker around with something locally.

[13:55] And if I'm seeing something that's expected, this is the expected output, and these are the expected environments that it should give it to me, maybe I can build it locally and get the same results. And that would give me confidence that I maybe kind of get more involved. It's also really great for security stuff as well, or package development in general, because it just means that you're getting your expected tips. You're getting the same thing over and over, and any changes can, like, be caught, be investigated, be enhanced far quicker. So, that's a really cool change for package maintainers and developers in F45. There's a couple of others as well, but do you have any good ones? This release has a lot of that backend security that we're starting to see across the industry. One of the things that stuck out to me with F45 was that RPM now refuses any unsigned packages by default.

[14:47] So, you've got to have those RPMs signed before Fedora will allow you to install things. So, that should help cut down on the number of fake packages that people can just download off of anywhere and install on their system. Absolutely. There is a workaround that if you're a hardcore kind of package developer, etc., that you can use if you trust the source, if you know what your system is doing, and you trust what you're downloading, cool. There's a workaround for that. It's in the release notes of that particular change. But for somebody like me who might accidentally click a link and then, oh, there's no malware and now it's in my system, and then I might, because of the role, I might have access to things I probably don't need to have access to.

[15:33] So, it's great to be able to kind of safeguard against things like that. 100%. Do you have a suggestion if somebody is sitting there and they're saying, hey, I am using a previous version of Fedora, maybe I'm on Fedora 44, and things are working really well for me. Do you have a suggestion on, here would be your pointed decision where you'd say, this is a really worthwhile reason to upgrade or a thing that you should really consider moving forward, or things are working really well, maybe wait a release, maybe wait a few days, maybe wait a few weeks. What would your suggested upgrade path be? So, if you are somebody who relies on an awful lot of extensions and plug-ins, best practice is definitely give it a week or two.

[16:21] There could be a couple of upstream things that come in, patches, general upgrades that maybe didn't make releases ours or the upstreams that we're pulling from as well, because Fedora is an upstream to neural, like we also pull from other upstreams. So, it's always good if you use an awful lot of those extra pieces, give them maybe two weeks. Wait to see what happens with the bugs and things like that. But if you're a general user like me, just do it. Do it now, you won't regret it. There's absolutely no need to wait if you just enjoy Fedora as a desktop operating system. And as someone who's used Fedora for a number of years, doing the DNF upgrade like you're talking about, you used to really worry me.

[17:16] I'd set aside like an entire afternoon or something. But one of the most amazing things that the Fedora engineering team has done is the upgrade process itself. If you go and look at the upgrade instructions, it'll tell you exactly, it'll link you to the Fedora magazine, it'll link you to the release notes, it'll give you the exact commands that you can literally copy and paste into your terminal. It'll sit back and let you know you might see this, it's okay, this is what this means. Or in some of the common use cases, the common errors that you'll see, it'll actually let you know how to back out that change and run the fix. But one of my favorite sections has actually become the after the upgrade steps. I used to skip those, I don't recommend that. But the amount of cleanup that the Fedora upgrade team has now introduced into the process, if you just follow that step-by-step upgrade doc, it will tell you, run these commands, clean up these packages.

[18:11] These libraries are no longer in use, so run these commands. And it really leaves your system in a very nice state. And up until about a year ago, I think I had a Fedora machine that had probably gone through probably about eight different versions of Fedora, and it just got easier and it got quicker and it got cleaner every single release. And I haven't upgraded yet. We're still talking about doing a livestream on the server side. But I looked at the release notes ahead of the show and it looks even easier now going from 44 to 45 than even 43 to 44 was. Definitely, I did. So I run Fedora on my own personal laptop, which is a Slimbook, which is really cool.

[18:58] And it literally... So I managed to upgrade it through the terminal as somebody who is not an engineer, but I followed the upgrade that's in our Fedora docs page, the upgrade steps. It's just so straightforward. I managed to do it on the kitchen table while holding a one-year-old who's trying to walk. It was just like... And super, super fast. And funny that you say that actually about usually taking so long and making sure you have updates to everything. I think I started using Fedora at Fedora 30. Couldn't touch that yet, I came out. And I do remember going from 30 to 31 and it did take a minute. It wasn't bad or anything, but it was slow.

[19:44] I remember being in the Red Hat office at the time and I was like, okay, I have time to go make a cup of coffee from scratch and maybe drink it and then come back. And it'll be ready. Whereas it literally, like I said, was able to do it with one hand, minding a toddler within a matter of minutes and it was just done. And I did do the extra steps, like you said, was funny that you mentioned that. Because I was like, oh, I wonder, is there any duplicates or is there any... Nope. Soapy. Nothing to do. I love when that comes up. A hundred percent. Can you talk to us a little bit about atomic images? Maybe give us a brief recap of what atomic images are. Atomic images for the desktop are built using Image Builder now.

[20:30] And so those atomic ISOs use the Anaconda web UI with a remote install over HTTPS. That seems like that's kind of a big shift into how Fedora is assembled. Can you comment on that? Not very well, to be honest. The atomic stuff is a little out of my depth, but I know the people involved and they're just super engaged in the project. So I'm glad to see that this work is happening. Even if I don't fully understand it, but it feels like that there is something new that we're on the cusp of that. But I do remember when we did switch to Image Builder for that work. Fedora Core OS adopted it. And then the bootc initiative, that has now kind of come... I think it's joining up with Fedora Core OS.

[21:17] They're all using it. And obviously we had like Silverblue, Kinoite, and there's always another one, I think. But I always forget. They're all fallen in under the Fedora atomic umbrella. And they all use... They all use that... osbuild is what they use under the hood and it's Image Builder. And it's really cool. The bootc stuff is really interesting. It will be very, very cool to have your different operating systems. I know you can do it with dual boot and things like that, but I'm looking forward to learning about when I can just bootc from Fedora into... I'll go with RHEL because obviously that's what the money is for me. But it'll be cool to be able to cycle through all of the different operating systems there.

[22:10] Maybe even Amazon have a version of Fedora Linux, so maybe we can put the end to one of those and kind of fill out the boundaries. So the switched Image Builder is great. Back when I was a Red Hatcher, Image Builder was one of the pieces of RHEL that I was actually a technical marketer for. And I fell in love with Image Builder even then. I mean, if you're listening to this and you're unfamiliar with Image Builder, think of it as like an à la carte menu where you basically just go in and say, I want the latest version of Fedora, I want these packages, and my system should come in with these users. It should have this keyboard setting. It should be in this time zone. I want these systemd services enabled. I want these firewall ports opened.

[22:57] Now save that as a blueprint. And then you can take that blueprint and you can publish it just about anywhere. You can... The big three hyperscalers, AWS, GCP, Azure, you can deploy an image there. You can download it as an ISO. You can create Kickstart files to go along with these Image Builder images and basically spin your own installer for Fedora. It is one of the coolest pieces of technology that Red Hat has been working on for the last, gosh, 10 years now. Just be able to go in and customize to that level your installer. And in a lot of cases, that becomes your restore point. You just put it on USB sticks, stick that in your laptop, and just run the installer like you normally would. And now things like Atomic and bootc are starting to pick this up as well.

[23:43] Which really is going to be interesting to see how that kind of plays out from a use case perspective. Because like you said, I have not seen people more excited about a shift in technology than this whole bootc movement. Like we talked on last... Noah and I did an episode a couple of weeks ago where we were talking about Fedora as a server and we were talking about just how much the industry has changed and we're going to this bootc world where we've been doing this with smartphones for years where you download the update, you restart your phone, and you've got the new version. Fedora is the same way. You can do that on the desktop, you can do that on the server side, and that's filtering down in CentOS and RHEL as well. So really excited to see how these different types of Atomic use cases are going to start to grow and just become more powerful, frankly, now that they're using Image Builder on the back end.

[24:37] I think it will be cool to have Image Builder be like the main source of the Fedora Linux build images. But we're a little away from all of that because Fedora is just such a big project, but it's nice to have all of those kind of, like you said, like the Atomic bootc, all that stuff, but they're using it and it's working really well and we can kind of see how that's going. And then like the... Not legacy project, that's the wrong word, like the Fedora Linux like standard customer, original, Fedora Linux original. OG, there you go. Yes, it's scary. Fedora OG. That they may eventually catch up with the two. That's really cool. Talk to me about somebody who wants to get involved.

[25:24] Somebody is listening to this and they want to help build the next Fedora release. They're listening to the Fedora podcast, they think this sounds like a really cool project. Can you talk to me about where they might start and where does the project actually need the help? Where would be the biggest impact? So there are a lot of places to get involved in Fedora, but I think our biggest area is always docs. Like the docs team can always use extra hands, particularly in release time. And I have to say the release notes is a great way to dip your toes into the Fedora release pool without feeling like you have to be like super technical and build, deploy containers straight out of OpenShift and all that kind of stuff. Like you don't, you can go.

[26:13] So we have actually, let me walk back a minute. We have a lovely new Git forge soon to also cover our Git need as well. That's coming. That's the minute all of our project hosting is on Fedora Forge, which is a fork for jail. I do call it and stroke Cobra. So I do apologize if I butchered that other name. And all of our docs release notes live there. So if you want to, like, if you have a Fedora account, you should be able to sign into the Git forge and be able to find the docs page, the release notes. It's a super easy UI to use. You just type it into the search bar, it'll give you the organization, click on it, you'll find the repository.

[27:01] And you'll see the release notes. Every time a change gets approved for the next Fedora release, I'll file a release notes ticket. I know my colleague, Petr Bokoč, would really appreciate the extra pair of hands at release time. And you can just comment saying, I'll write these release notes. And you just can reference the change proposal page. And it's very detailed and structured on how to do it. Peter is on hand to give you a hand as well to do it. And it's a great first step into the actual, like, Fedora release. If you don't feel like doing a technical thing, if you do want to do a technical thing, propose a change. You're more than welcome to influence what goes into Fedora Linux at every release. There's a couple of things you have to do first, obviously.

[27:49] You have to, like, you know, have a change thought out, then proposes, and then, you know, maybe answer a couple of questions and then have it approved by our engineering steering committee. But they're more hands-on ways to get involved in the release. You can also help contribute ideas for our wallpaper. They're themed. They're open now, I believe, until the end of the year for the F46 inspiration. F45, I think it might be my favorite. It's Enigma's Aventura, which is very cool. And it's alphabetical. So I think T is for Turing, so U might be the next letter. But our design team handles that, too. They also have an organization space in Fedora Forge. So get a Fedora account.

[28:36] Get into Fedora Forge. Find those organizations. Start those repositories and start getting involved in some of the tickets there. There is a load of other places to get involved as well, like there's a Join SIG. We hang out on Matrix for chat. We have a forum on discourse, discussion.fedoraproject.org. You can just, again, sign up. Just noiter there. There's a water cooler chat. There's project discussions. There's news announcements. You don't have to engage. You can just simply read the Matrix account. Loads of different ways to get involved. I do apologize if I'm rambling. Oh, that's a great list. To kind of sum up what you're saying, especially around release time, there's a ton of need across the entire project.

[29:23] Docs is obviously a huge part of that. I know the Fedora magazine would love some additional help, especially around release time, because there's all these new features. And I know that I always go skim the release notes, and then I jump over to Fedora magazine where there's tutorials, there's kind of spotlight looks at new features and changes to the project. And then if you're looking for more information, you can check out Forgejo, or you can go to the discourse forums at discussion.fedoraproject.org. And of course, you can tune into a particular podcast who usually has new information. Yes, there is, I believe, that going around. Two guys are on it. I can't remember their names. They seem to know a lot, though. One of them's really good looking.

[30:10] The other one's a little crazy, so. They're very involved. They know a lot about the Fedora project, so it's a hassle, then. Actually, one shout-out that I really do have to underline is test weeks, testing coming up to the release. Our QA, QA, QE team, they host regular test weeks where they'd ask our contributors to test the kernels, to test common features. You mentioned the Web UI for Anaconda. That had a lot of testing went into it. I think that came in in... I can't remember the exact release, but I do remember there was a lot of test weeks for that. So any features and new things that come into the release usually do get a test week assigned to them.

[30:58] It would be so helpful to our QE folk if people had had some time and just gone through the test. They'll have a framework already done out. Just keep an eye on the emails that get sent. There's a list. Sometimes they might post them on Discord, but they do definitely send an email. A little bit old school in some ways. So you just click the link and follow the instructions. Like I said, they'll have testing frameworks done, and you just literally note down what your findings were, what you tested it on. Those things are really, really helpful. And then reporting bugs once the beta is out, coming into final. And a misconception that I carried for a number of years was that you have to be a developer, that you have to be super deep into the technology to participate in test weeks.

[31:47] And nothing could be farther from the truth. The docs are always really, really well done for test weeks. They tell you exactly what you need. They give you the exact commands to run. They give you the expected output. And all you have to be able to do is, if something were to go wrong, you just need to be able to collect those logs, collect screen captures, what have you, to report back. And failure is not necessarily a bad thing in this case. We need to figure out where things work, where things need to be improved. So you don't, you absolutely don't have to have a Linux kernel engineering degree to participate in test weeks. No, they defeat the whole point of having good test weeks for Fedora. Because our end users are not always, and are not kernel, I'm certainly not kernel minded, so.

[32:33] Test approved. So a couple of minutes ago, you mentioned Fedora 46, which I know we're celebrating the launch of Fedora 45. Well, I know you and your team are already thinking about the next release. When, what can we start hearing a little bit about the next release? Oh, you can, you can start hearing about it now. We already have some changes approved for F46. We have a change set page where all of the approved changes get files. It's on the Fedora Wiki for now, just because we have a lot of scripts that kind of feed into it. So it's just easy. But you can already have a look at what's already approved and join the discussions about what's being proposed and maybe influence if you have some opinions or feel a certain way on some of the changes. Maybe you just don't want that there, or you think it's an absolutely great idea or have the change owners considered doing it this way to get this result.

[33:26] Actually, one of the changes that came in for 45 was a compromise of a series of discussions over the last few words. It's the ptrace by default change that came in, which was really cool because it was approved in 45 after a number of proposals to bring it in. And it was rejected, and it was discussed. So you can influence future releases of Fedora with your opinions on certain changes if you don't think it's going to be a right fit for this one. It doesn't mean it's never going to be a right fit, but maybe your opinion is actually what sways it out or what makes the change owners think, oh, actually, there might be a better way to do this. So join in the discussion, and it is, when they get proposed, we welcome community feedback.

[34:13] That's what they're proposed for. We want to hear from our community on how they feel. And yeah, you can get involved right now. It is open season for 46. We'll have our beta come in around March. And then I think you have up until Christmas Day. Oh, it's some terribly timed deadline anyway for people who celebrate Christmas for change proposals. I think the deadline is something like Christmas Day or the next day after for system-wide changes. So if you're thinking of something big for 46, don't delay. Get your thoughts into a wiki. Get them filed. We'll get them out there so you can enjoy your Christmas if you're celebrating peace, knowing your change is done.

[35:06] Fedora 45 is out now. Upgrade. Go ahead and break something. If you do break something, that's even better for us as content creators. So write in, tell us about it. If you want to help with the next one, land on the first date rather than the third one, the test days are the place to start. Absolutely. Oh, one other thing that I'm worth noting as well, and I don't think I've said it. We have RISC-V images available as well for some systems. It's not a primary architecture. It's still secondary. It's not fully approved yet. But there's a group of people working in Fedora to bring RISC-V hardware to the forefront of the project. So we have images available if you're into that kind of hardware. There's a great write-up on the Fedora discourse page.

[35:54] There will be an article landing in Fedora Magazine hopefully in the next week or so. But as we were joking earlier, life be-lifing. And the people involved just, yeah, they'll get to it. But yeah, that's an FYI in case you're interested in those kind of architectures. Yeah, RISC-V is really cool. Just the open nature of the hardware platform and just the velocity that that platform is growing in viability. It is really, really cool. I had the benefit at SCALE earlier this year of being right across the aisle from the RISC-V booth and got to hear a lot about what's going on. So definitely hoping to interview someone from the RISC-V community on this show hopefully in the near future.

[36:42] Sweet. Yes, I love it. She's thrown so many of you all under the bus in the pre-show. It's great. I have a headless now. I don't know all this stuff, but I do seem to know a lot of the people. So as we wrap, this was kind of a whirlwind tour of Fedora Linux 45. Is there anything that we didn't cover, anything that you were really, really excited about? Yeah, we completely glazed over Stratis. It's a new feature that the Anaconda team brought for the installer. And I don't know all the ins and outs to it, but it seems to be a really modern way to deal with storage provisioning for when you're installing stuff. And they've done it in a very, like a few buttons kind of way.

[37:34] So that is a really, really nice feature for F45. There's an excellent article written about it as well for like a step-by-step guide. Their documentation is really good, but it's a wonderful feature to have. You have the more and more excellent things seem to be coming from the Anaconda team for our installer. Stratis is an amazing technology. It should be an episode all on its own. It's an amazing piece of technology. So definitely go out and take a look at Stratis, take a look at the Fedora magazine. There's been a ton of articles published in the last few weeks. So, I mean, we've got Fedora Linux 45, all the spins from KDE to GNOME to some of the lab editions. And even within the release, we're looking at Podman 6, Linux kernel 7.2, Python 3.15.

[38:26] There is so much going on, including oo7. I just learned about oo7 at lunch today. So there's just so much out there and there's just not enough bits and bytes and clock ticks. There's just not enough of them to cover everything in this release. So definitely go and check out the release notes and check out the new magazine articles. So, Noah, I am still thinking about when we should do a livestream. My home lab is pinned to Fedora Server 44. Okay. The express purpose of going into my bootc configuration and changing it to 45 and watching the pipelines as they either work or don't. So we should, you know, traveling right now, but maybe later on in November we could get together and do a cool livestream event and see if Eric can break his home lab.

[39:15] All right, I love that. The project does not recommend going up by two versions. So if you're at 44, we definitely recommend you changing the 446. Yes, yes. Six months. Yeah, that is great advice and something we probably should have mentioned. If you are running Fedora 43, I would really, really consider moving up to 44 sooner than later, if not all the way up to 45. Usually if you wait a week or two, I haven't really run into any earth shattering issues. So if you're a little unsure, give it another week and then I'd hit that big upgrade button. Yeah. And 43 will be end of life pretty soon as well. I think you have another like four weeks, give or take. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you to everyone for listening.

[40:02] Really excited to share that as of yesterday-ish, the Fedora project YouTube channel passed 15,000 subscribers. 15,000 people watch our YouTube channel and this show has been growing like crazy. So thank you all for listening. Thank you all for sharing. And if you know someone that you want to throw under the bus or I mean volunteer to be a part of the show, we're always looking for new content, new guests, but that's going to wrap up today's episode. So special thanks to the Fedora Operations Architect, Aoife, and to my most favorite co-host of all times, Mr. Noah Chelliah. You can catch him every Tuesday night live on the Ask Noah show.

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